I truley fail so see the trend/point/premis to these E-bikes. They are over-engineered heavy ugly, unfunctional, expensive pieces of junk... Yes theyre making technological leaps and bounds, but the basis of the bicycle being one of the best inventions in our world to date, was how simple it could be ... Why stray so drastically away from this now ? Because "we have the technology" ? clearly not. Ive seen supercycles done up with a lawnmower engine come through my shop that are not only lighter, but more esthetically pleasing as well. It is MY opinion, that Ebikes should not be used for extreme purposes whatso ever. If you are not capable of riding a bike up a track, or at least hiking it, you should not be able to ride down. If you need a 10,000 dollar piece of machinery underneath you to cruise the local track, our cycling world is taking a turn of which i will refrain. Motorcycles and dirtbikes were invented for a reason, stop trying to fill an already oversaturated market with more useless junk. and yes, im one hell of a hater.